Former particular counsel Jack Smith arrives to testify in a closed-door deposition earlier than the Home Judiciary Committee on Dec. 17, 2025, in Washington, D.C.
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Former particular counsel Jack Smith on Thursday defended his determination to safe two prison indictments in opposition to President Trump and asserted his group had gathered sufficient proof to convict.
Smith gave his first public testimony about his work Thursday, showing earlier than the Home Judiciary Committee. Republican members of the panel attacked Smith’s transfer to gather cellphone information of lawmakers who had been in touch with Trump allies across the time of the Capitol riot in 2021. They usually forged the historic investigations of Trump as politically motivated.
“It was at all times about politics and to get President Trump. They had been prepared to do nearly something,” stated Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, the panel’s chairman.
“I’m not a politician, and I’ve no partisan loyalties,” Smith responded. “My workplace did not spy on anybody.”
Neither of Smith’s instances reached a jury earlier than Trump received the 2024 election and returned to the White Home final 12 months.

In a videotaped deposition, Smith stated the president had solely himself guilty, for expenses he tried to overturn the desire of voters in 2020.
“The proof right here made clear that President Trump was by a big measure essentially the most culpable and most accountable individual on this conspiracy,” Smith stated within the deposition, which congressional Republicans launched on New 12 months’s Eve. “These crimes had been dedicated for his profit.”
Smith stated the violent assault on the U.S. Capitol, which injured 140 legislation enforcement officers, wouldn’t have occurred, apart from Trump. He stated he couldn’t perceive the president’s mass pardon of members of the Capitol mob on Trump’s first day in workplace and predicted lots of them would commit new crimes within the years forward.

“Nobody must be above the legislation in our nation, and the legislation required that he be held to account,” Smith advised lawmakers Thursday. “So that’s what I did.”
He has been desirous to defend the work of prosecutors and FBI brokers who labored on the investigations of the president. Most of these individuals had been fired after Trump returned to energy.
Requested about regrets or errors, Smith stated if something, he would have expressed extra appreciation for members of his group, who “sacrificed” a lot throughout their authorities service.
Trump suggests Justice Division ought to probe Smith
Throughout the listening to, Trump posted on Reality Social that Smith was being “decimated” by Republican questions.
“Jack Smith is a deranged animal, who should not be allowed to observe Regulation,” Trump wrote. “Hopefully the Lawyer Basic is taking a look at what he is achieved, together with among the crooked and corrupt witnesses that he was making an attempt to make use of in his case in opposition to me.”
Smith declined a possibility to reply on to the president’s phrases from the witness desk, however he stated he absolutely anticipated the Trump Justice Division to discover a method to punish him. The Justice Division has already moved to deliver prison expenses in opposition to two of the president’s perceived foes.
“I cannot be intimidated,” Smith stated.

Trump has promised at completely different occasions to launch a prison investigation into Smith and even throw him in another country.
One space the place Smith tread fastidiously is the investigation into categorised paperwork that the FBI present in a ballroom, a toilet and an workplace at Trump’s Florida resort. A second quantity of Smith’s ultimate report that considerations that episode has been blocked from launch by Choose Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee who oversaw the case, however media organizations and nonprofit teams have pushed to launch it.
Trump’s private lawyer made a contemporary plea this week to maintain these findings secret. The president argues that Smith’s report incorporates grand jury and privileged supplies that might damage Trump’s constitutional and privateness rights if launched.

