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Democratic Texas state lawmaker on determination to finish standoff over redistricting : NPR
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Democratic Texas state lawmaker on determination to finish standoff over redistricting : NPR

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NPR’s A Martinez speaks with Texas state Rep. Mihaela Plesa in regards to the determination by Democratic lawmakers to finish their redistricting standoff with their Republican counterparts.



LEILA FADEL, HOST:

As California lawmakers push to approve a brand new congressional map, Democrats in Texas have ended a two-week walkout. A type of Democrats is Consultant Mihaela Plesa. She’s the vice chair of the Texas Home Democratic Caucus, and he or she joins me now. Good morning and thanks for being on this system.

MIHAELA PLESA: Good morning. Thanks a lot for having me.

FADEL: So the walkout is over, however the motive for that walkout will not be. Republicans are nonetheless planning to vote to redraw congressional maps of their favor. So what did this walkout truly accomplish?

PLESA: Properly, this walkout achieved two issues, proper? First, we have been victorious in having the ability to kill the primary known as particular session that the governor known as that we noticed was actually simply centered on energy grabs that Donald Trump requested our governor for. And the second is that we began actually a nationwide motion. We have woken folks as much as what’s taking place, not simply in Texas however round our nation. And we’re getting folks concerned. Actually, that is their illustration that is at stake. And so I am simply actually proud to have met this second and began this motion.

FADEL: OK, so nationwide consideration was one thing that was gained. However the proposed redistricting remains to be on the desk and is anticipated to go. So what are Texas Democrats planning on doing subsequent?

PLESA: Properly, we needed to come house for the authorized battle, proper? Our election consultants advised us that we, too, are on tight deadlines to guarantee that these maps make it within the courts and so they’re litigated on. We really feel very assured after we simply noticed the Fifth Circuit Courtroom in Louisiana rule in opposition to a Louisiana redistricting map that was racially gerrymandered. And so we now have to return to the Home ground. We have now to make the authorized arguments on the Home ground throughout legislative debate as to why these are racially gerrymandered maps. And we hope that when it makes it to the Fifth Circuit Courtroom, they, too, will discover in favor that these maps have been racially gerrymandered and cease this energy seize.

FADEL: So your religion is with the courts. I wished to ask you about California, although, which we simply heard about. Democrats there are transferring to redraw congressional maps in response to what’s taking place in your state. It is principally mirroring the hassle to offer Democrats extra seats in California if Texas does what it is doing. What do you make of that?

PLESA: Properly, I feel that Democrats have to satisfy fireplace with fireplace, proper? If Republicans are selecting to alter the foundations in the course of the sport, Democrats need to be prepared to play the brand new recreation. Look, we now have at all times been for impartial redistricting commissions. Each time we see Democrats take the gavel or take a governorship, they transfer to make our maps extra honest, whether or not it is together with impartial redistricting committees in state constitutions like California does, or they make the system extra arduous to alter these maps like New York has achieved.

And so we now have at all times performed by the foundations. I feel our concern is that Donald Trump is not taking part in by any guidelines. And our concern is that if he’s in a position to achieve success on this energy seize, we’ll see extra large dangerous payments. We’ll see extra cuts in Medicaid and Medicare. We’ll see, you realize, Social Safety be achieved away with. And we would even see nationwide abortion bans undergo.

FADEL: And actually rapidly, you lead a politically divided district in a Dallas suburb. What have your constituents been telling you?

PLESA: I symbolize one of many solely swing districts out of 150 districts within the Home, and my constituents don’t desire us to be representatives of Donald Trump. They need us to hearken to their wants. Texas simply suffered a catastrophic flood. We misplaced over 130 folks. Youngsters have been in that quantity. We ought to be centered on these folks and their loss. We have now a state the place we’re one of many lowest in per pupil funding for public training, and we must be centered on these points.

FADEL: We’ll have to go away it there. That’s Democratic state consultant Mihaela Plesa of Texas. Thanks a lot in your time.

PLESA: Thanks.

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