President Trump’s critics accuse him of breaking or ignoring norms. However, others say he could be treating them in a different way than previous presidents.
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A phrase that you just hear lots when individuals discuss President Trump is norms – often about what number of he is breaking or ignoring. NPR senior nationwide political correspondent Mara Liasson has the story on what norms are and what it signifies that Trump is treating them in a different way than previous presidents.
MARA LIASSON, BYLINE: To study norms, I known as up Norm himself – Norm Eisen, that’s – who was President Obama’s particular counsel for ethics; in impact, the designated defender of norms in authorities.
NORM EISEN: Norms are the rules, the values that information good functioning in authorities. However they don’t seem to be legal guidelines.
LIASSON: Rules like not making a living off the presidency or utilizing the levers of presidency to punish your political enemies or threatening to prosecute your predecessor for treason – all of which Trump has achieved. Presidents usually are not legally certain to abide by these norms, however not less than till now, they’ve tried to, says Trevor Potter, former Republican chairman of the Federal Election Fee.
TREVOR POTTER: They’re self-restraints to forestall ethics violations, unethical exercise, to extend public confidence within the authorities. And the fact is that they solely work if the president cares about them and the president’s individuals implement them.
LIASSON: And, says Norm Eisen, President Trump doesn’t care about them.
EISEN: Presidents have been held again each by self-restraint but additionally by a way of disgrace or a worry of penalties that Donald Trump does not have.
LIASSON: Presidents previously have typically been the topic of ethics controversies, however no president has made the sort of cash – a whole bunch of hundreds of thousands of {dollars}, as an illustration – on cryptocurrency on the similar time his administration is regulating the crypto business. Then there’s the norm, says Trevor Potter, that the president shouldn’t order his Justice Division to go after his political enemies, as Trump has achieved.
POTTER: That is an unlimited change. It is a violation of a norm. It is a violation of insurance policies by the final umpteen presidents.
LIASSON: One other norm Trump has damaged – respect for the opposite two coequal branches of presidency. Eisen factors to the case of TikTok, the Chinese language-owned social media platform.
EISEN: Donald Trump’s habits vis-a-vis TikTok is, in a way, the violation of the final word norm.
LIASSON: It is the final word norm, says Eisen, as a result of Congress, by massive bipartisan majorities, handed a legislation to close down TikTok. Then the Supreme Courtroom unanimously upheld the legislation. However…
EISEN: Donald Trump has chosen to disregard it. So he is created a brand new adverse norm – catch me when you can.
LIASSON: For Trump supporters like Paul Kamenar, the lead counsel on the Nationwide Authorized and Coverage Heart, a conservative ethics watchdog group, Trump is merely reasserting the right authority of the chief department.
PAUL KAMENAR: Now, some could say that he is breaking norms, however I feel if he’s, that is factor in an effort to assert a vigorous govt president.
LIASSON: And that is just about how Trump himself views his powers.
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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Then I’ve an Article II the place I’ve the proper to do no matter I need as president.
LIASSON: Previously, there could have been political penalties for norm-breaking – congressional hearings, headlines screaming scandal – however that is unlikely to occur now. Nonetheless, there is perhaps sensible, real-world penalties for violating some norms, particularly the financial norms, similar to respecting the independence of the Federal Reserve.
JENNIFER BURNS: That is a norm that Trump is breaking.
LIASSON: Hoover Establishment fellow Jennifer Burns says President Trump’s norm-breaking assaults on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, threatening to fireplace him if he does not decrease rates of interest, may backfire.
BURNS: If the central financial institution is perceived to be politically managed, then one may really feel they’re reducing rates of interest, not as a result of the financial system is on observe, however as a result of the president has compelled them to decrease rates of interest and the president’s compelled them to again away from retaining their eye on inflation.
LIASSON: A much less impartial Fed may, Burns says, trigger inflation to go up, finally inflicting traders to again away from the USA if it not appears to be like like essentially the most secure place to place their cash. So what occurs in any case these norms are gone?
EISEN: We’re at a fork within the street. Will we go the route of different elected officers, different presidents saying, effectively, I will violate the norms like Donald Trump did, penalties be damned? Or will they are saying, oh, the American individuals do not like that.
LIASSON: Norm Eisen is not certain what occurs after Trump. That can rely on whether or not American voters are comfy with a extra highly effective, much less restrained president who makes his personal guidelines and norms.
Mara Liasson, NPR Information.
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