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Last updated: December 5, 2025 10:56 am
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Nick Fuentes not too long ago known as Candace Owens out for saying that she would not be capable to be part of Turning Level USA’s livestream in particular person because of a scheduling battle. For the uninitiated, the row between Owens and TPUSA started after the podcaster alleged that the group was concerned within the loss of life of co-founder Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025. In her most up-to-date declare made earlier this week, Owens alleged that Kirk was “betrayed” by TPUSA’s management.

Following this, TPUSA’s Blake Neff challenged Candace Owens’ claims and requested her to affix a livestream with TPUSA to deal with her claims, which Owens initially accepted. On December 4, 2025, Neff took to X to state that the livestream, the place “a set of Charlie’s mates will reply to statements” made by Owens, has been scheduled for December 15, extending an invite to the podcaster to affix them in particular person at their studio in Phoenix.

Candace Owens responded that she wouldn’t be capable to make the livestream in particular person, noting that the time of the livestream clashed together with her stay podcast. Nevertheless, she added that she was keen to forgo her podcast and be part of the TPUSA livestream nearly, writing:

“Sort of bizarre the way you didn’t e-mail or name me to ask about occasions or availability and selected to as a substitute tweet this affirmation out at midnight. Why am I studying about this on X?”

She added:

“December fifteenth doesn’t work in-person and 2pm PT can be literal time I do my podcast LIVE on a regular basis (which you knew)— however we’ll fortunately cancel the day by day podcast and can be part of you guys nearly as a substitute for the livestream on the fifteenth if that works in your finish? Let’s lock it in?”

In the meantime, Nick Fuentes waded into the dialogue and shared his incredulity of Candace Owens’ not attending the livestream in particular person because of a “scheduling battle,” writing:

“You have been invited to TPUSA HQ to press their management stay and in particular person about their position in Charlie Kirk’s homicide, however you’ll be able to’t go due to a scheduling battle? LOL. Isn’t this what you will have been pushing for since September? Time to place up or shut up.”


Nick Fuentes accused Candace Owens of “milking” her “investigation” into Charlie Kirk’s loss of life

Since Charlie Kirk was fatally shot whereas attending an occasion at Utah Valley College in September, Candace Owens has introduced forth numerous conspiracy theories concerning the podcaster’s homicide, together with allegations that his group was concerned within the incident. On December 2, 2025, she took to X to tweet that Kirk was “betrayed by the management of Turning Level USA,” writing:

“I now can say with full confidence that I imagine Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the management of Turning Level USA and a number of the very individuals who eulogized him on stage. Sure I will likely be naming names and offering proof for my claims.”

I acquired info final evening that put the ultimate items collectively for me. ​I now can say with full confidence that I imagine Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the management of Turning Level USA and a number of the very individuals who eulogized him on stage. ​Sure I will likely be naming names and offering proof for my claims. ​And I’m making a private plea to each well-meaning one that donated to this Godforsaken group to request a refund. ​You have been lied to. And management knew.

Following this, Blake Neff addressed Candace Owens throughout a latest episode of The Charlie Kirk Present and disclosed that TPUSA will maintain a livestream in Phoenix discussing her claims, telling her that she was invited to affix the dialogue. Owens responded to Neff in a subsequent episode of her podcast, asking TPUSA to choose the time and the place.

Nevertheless, as soon as Neff posted on X that the livestream would happen on December 15, the podcaster claimed that the date didn’t work for her, prompting Nick Fuentes to touch upon her supposed hesitancy to affix TPUSA.

In the meantime, Candace Owens hit again at Fuentes on X, accusing him of “attacking” her. She additionally wrote that she had beforehand invited Fuentes on her present for a dialogue, stating that he postponed to assembly to swimsuit his schedule and calling him a “fraud.”

“You spent over a 12 months attacking me in your present. I lastly mentioned ‘okay, come on my present tomorrow’ You responded and mentioned Wednesday labored higher on your schedule. Cease being a fraud,” she wrote.

Candace Owens additionally connected a screenshot of a textual content thread with Fuentes discussing the assembly, writing on X that it will be disingenuous of her to come back on social media and tweet “Nick refused to debate!”

In his response on December 4, Nick Fuentes identified that Candace Owens had requested TPUSA to recommend the time and place for his or her livestream. He additional accused her of “milking” her “investigation” into Kirk’s loss of life, solely to “no-show” when supplied with a chance “to blow the lid on all the things.”

“You mentioned TPUSA might choose the time and place. They did. You’ve been milking your “investigation” for 3 months— now could be your alternative to blow the lid on all the things and also you’re going to no-show? What might presumably be the excuse? You owe it to your followers,” he wrote.


In different information, Blake Neff introduced by way of X that the livestream will proceed with out Candace Owens. In the meantime, Owens responded to Neff’s submit that she and her staff had determined to “livestream your [TPUSA] livestream and supply commentary,” including that she seemed ahead to “offering stay responses to your “as soon as and for all” solutions.”