On this July 2, 2020, file photograph, Audrey Strauss, performing U.S. lawyer for the Southern District of New York, factors to a photograph of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell throughout a information convention in New York.
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The Justice Division on Friday launched what it says is the entire transcript and audio recording of Deputy Legal professional Basic Todd Blanche’s conversations with Ghislaine Maxwell final month.
Maxwell was the longtime accomplice of convicted intercourse offender Jeffrey Epstein and was sentenced to a 20-year jail time period for serving to Epstein sexually abuse underage women. Blanche met along with her in Tallahassee, Fla., over the course of two days in late July. The transcripts, working tons of of pages in size, are marked “redacted.”
Blanche posted the recordsdata on social media and mentioned they had been shared “within the curiosity of transparency.”
In an announcement, an lawyer for Maxwell mentioned she advised the reality within the interview and insisted she is a scapegoat.
“Ms. Maxwell answered each query,” mentioned lawyer David Markus. “She didn’t refuse to reply and didn’t dodge any query. She supported her solutions with paperwork and different goal proof. Her demeanor and credibility are clear for anybody to listen to. She was ready to do that regardless of 5 torturous years in custody, a few of which within the worst possible circumstances.”
The Trump administration has confronted elevated stress from Democrats in addition to some supporters contained in the GOP to share extra details about any recordsdata it has on Epstein and his case.
What she mentioned about President Trump
Over the course of the interview, Maxwell was requested about a wide selection of officers who could have recognized or been in touch with Epstein, together with President Trump. Epstein and Trump belonged to the identical Palm Seaside social circle, however Trump has lengthy maintained his friendship with Epstein ended earlier than the disgraced financier was indicted for soliciting prostitution in 2006.
Maxwell advised Blanche that she could have met Trump in some unspecified time in the future in 1990 as a result of he had been pleasant along with her father. She mentioned Trump “was all the time very cordial and really sort to me,” including that she by no means witnessed him in any “inappropriate setting.”
“I really by no means noticed the President in any sort of therapeutic massage setting. I by no means witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any manner. The President was by no means inappropriate with anyone. Within the occasions that I used to be with him, he was a gentleman in all respects,” Maxwell mentioned.
Requested about Trump’s relationship with Epstein, Maxwell mentioned she didn’t assume they had been “shut mates.”
“I do not recall ever seeing him in his home, as an illustration,” she advised prosecutors.
Epstein’s attain
Maxwell was additionally requested about Epstein’s interactions with former President Invoice Clinton. When Blanche pressed her on whether or not Clinton had obtained a therapeutic massage, Maxwell mentioned no.
“I do not imagine he did,” she mentioned, including that the one time Epstein and Clinton frolicked collectively was on Epstein’s aircraft.
“So that they frolicked on the aircraft collectively, and I do not imagine there was ever a therapeutic massage on the aircraft. So that may’ve been the one time that I believe that President Clinton might have even obtained a therapeutic massage. And he did not, as a result of I used to be there,” she mentioned.
The interviews present perception into the connections Epstein was capable of forge with among the most well-known and influential figures in authorities, enterprise and tradition — even when these relationships weren’t themselves recognized to have been nefarious.
Amongst these mentioned within the interview are figures akin to Invoice Gates, actors Chris Tucker and Kevin Spacey, and present Well being and Human Providers Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, amongst others. Maxwell mentioned she was unaware of any inappropriate exercise involving any of them, although she did share that she and Epstein had gone “dinosaur bone searching within the Dakotas” with Kennedy.
An uncommon assembly
Blanche’s assembly with Maxwell was extremely uncommon for involving such a senior Justice Division official. Additionally on the interview had been Diego Pestana, the performing affiliate deputy lawyer common, Spencer Horn, an FBI particular agent, and Mark Beard, deputy U.S. Marshal.
Maxwell and her authorized workforce look like making a pitch for clemency in some kind. As president, Trump has flexed his energy to commute — or shorten — current jail phrases, and to pardon individuals who have provided him assist prior to now. Inside days of her interview with Blanche, she was moved from a federal jail in Florida to a minimum-security jail camp in Texas. Officers didn’t clarify the rationale for the switch.
The discharge of the transcripts on Friday got here on the identical day that the Justice Division shared a primary wave of recordsdata from its probes into Epstein and Maxwell with members of the Home Oversight Committee. The committee subpoenaed the company for the information earlier this month.
The panel’s chairman, James Comer, R-Ky., says he plans to make a minimum of among the information accessible to the general public, however has confronted criticism from Democrats — and a few Republicans — who say they fear the discharge will likely be removed from complete.
