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S&P 500 is at ‘traditionally excessive valuations,’ warns Apollo’s Torsten Slok
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S&P 500 is at ‘traditionally excessive valuations,’ warns Apollo’s Torsten Slok

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Last updated: November 7, 2025 11:32 am
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Markets are usually not in a cushty place proper now. The S&P 500 was down by greater than a proportion at yesterday’s shut, the Dow Jones by close to the identical, and the Nasdaq was down practically 2%. The VIX volatility index, against this, is up greater than 9%—suggesting the turbulence is much from over.

Even then, Apollo’s chief economist, Torsten Sløk, wrote this week the S&P is at “traditionally excessive valuations.” In a notice to purchasers yesterday, Sløk charted the “Warren Buffett indicator” (U.S. inventory market cap to GDP) in opposition to the Shiller cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio.

The result’s—maybe unsurprisingly—that over time the Buffett indicator has elevated towards the exteme finish, as has price-to-earnings. Nonetheless, 2025 stands out as a very prolonged outlier.

The most recent information underlines a broader concern amongst analysts {that a} reckoning is looming for the markets. The CEOs of each Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs have acknowledged this week that they foresee a big selloff forward, with markets probably adjusting down by as a lot as 20% over the subsequent two years.

Excessive valuations themselves don’t essentially sign an imminent correction, argued UBS’s chief funding officer, Mark Haefele, in a notice to purchasers yesterday. He stated that on the entire there may be “little question” that valuations are above common however the market is unlikely to right itself based mostly purely on this reality.

As a substitute, he argues, declines will come “when company revenue progress disappoints, with ahead returns extra correlated with modifications in earnings expectations over the subsequent 12 months.”

He added: “Outcomes from the present earnings season have been strong, with each the breadth and magnitude of earnings beats thus far exceeding historic averages. We forecast S&P 500 earnings per share to develop 10% this 12 months, and see upside to our expectation of a 7.5% progress subsequent 12 months. Moreover, we imagine present valuations are justified, because the elevated weighting of higher-multiple sectors (equivalent to IT) in fairness benchmarks ought to assist maintain larger valuations.”

It will be remiss to not point out the motive force of valuations: AI. Capex on the revolutionary expertise isn’t solely pumping valuations in markets, it’s so large that it’s a key driver for the U.S. economic system as an entire. The extent of funds being pumped into AI and its infrastructure has led to (arguably inevitable) bubble questions on whether or not the expertise can reside as much as its promise.

“Given aggressive valuations, nevertheless, buyers have to be asking the place the gasoline for 2026 positive factors will come from,” chimed Lisa Shalett, chief funding officer at Morgan Stanley in a notice on Monday. “In essence, portfolio positioning hinges on whether or not the AI capex growth will ship as modeled. Our view stays 50/50, on condition that implementation might take longer than hoped for, with productiveness positive factors restricted to some scaled corporations.”

In fact, valuations additionally comes all the way down to timing: When does the market see corporations lastly delivering the outcomes they’re being valued on?

That is the argument of Mary Callahan Erdoes, CEO of JPMorgan’s asset and wealth administration enterprise, who acknowledged that whereas in some shares there may be “somewhat an excessive amount of focus,” argued at Fortune’s International Discussion board final month: “AI has not even been deployed anyplace to the extent that it is going to be. Lower than 10% of corporations really say that it’s embedded within the companies and the merchandise that they ship at the moment. There’s an infinite quantity of alternative.”

She added: “That’s why you’re seeing the multiples are the way in which they’re. And the query is, how briskly will we develop into these multiples? It’s not that the multiples are flawed, they are going to finally be proper; they is probably not proper for each firm.”

Right here’s a snapshot of the markets forward of the opening bell in New York this morning:

  • S&P 500 futures are up 0.17% this morning. The final session closed down 1.12%.
  • STOXX Europe 600 was flat in early buying and selling.
  • The U.Okay.’s FTSE 100 was down 0.48% in early buying and selling.
  • Japan’s Nikkei 225 was down 1.19%.
  • China’s CSI 300 was up 0.31%.
  • The South Korea KOSPI was down 1.81%.
  • India’s NIFTY 50 is down 0.1%.
  • Bitcoin was all the way down to $100.9K.
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